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GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go:11.0]
SZ[19]
HA[0]
ST[1]
PB[USMasters]
PW[USMasters]
DT[2006-01-15]
PC[IGS-PandaNet]
KM[6.5]
TM[0]
GN[2006 Oza NYC Round 6 Board 1 Feng Yun 9P (W) vs Lu Wang 8d (B)]
CP[Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2006]
BR[8d?]
WR[8d?];B[pd];W[dd];B[qp];W[dq];B[cf];W[ch];B[cn];W[cp]
;B[ef];W[fd];B[di];W[ce];B[ci];W[bf];B[cg];W[op];B[oo];W[no]
;B[on];W[pp];B[qo];W[kp];B[qq];W[nc];B[pf];W[pb];B[qc];W[kc]
;B[pi];W[dn];B[cm];W[dm]
C[Undo: C8]
;B[cl];W[co];B[nq];W[np];B[or];W[mq]
;B[mr];W[lq];B[jq];W[lr];B[jp];W[jo];B[io];W[in];B[hn]
C[davew [ 4d*\]: H7! :)
mhlepore [ 1k*\]: is Lu Wang undefeated as well?
Standfast [12k \]: he's 4-1
mhlepore [ 1k*\]: thanks - who did he lose to
Standfast [12k \]: i'm not sure of that]
;W[ho]
;B[ip];W[jn]
C[mhlepore [ 1k*\]: thx chris]
;B[go];W[hm];B[hp];W[gq];B[gm];W[gl];B[hl];W[im]
;B[fm]
C[Charybdis [ NR \]: who's black in this?
Standfast [12k \]: lu wang
mhlepore [ 1k*\]: Lu (Jeffrey) Wang plays as kickkicks on IGS]
;W[dl];B[fl];W[ck];B[bk];W[bj];B[cj];W[dk];B[bl];W[bh]
;B[bi];W[bg];B[dh];W[gk];B[fk];W[pk];B[nk]
C[davew [ 4d*\]: R11?]
;W[qm];B[nn];W[qi]
;B[qh];W[ri];B[ln];W[lo];B[rh];W[pj];B[rk];W[rl];B[qk]
C[codger [ NR \]: doesn't b want to get on the outside?]
;W[oi]
;B[ph];W[qj]
C[blackbeard [ 5d*\]: only outside, b is not enough
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: very hard for b to get back now
petarixx [ 1k \]: black can kill white on the left...
petarixx [ 1k \]: b shiould paly P10
petarixx [ 1k \]: b should play P10
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: w played very clear this game
BEER [ 1k*\]: and W plays s6
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: defenitly professional level
grunt [ 5d*\]: "professional level?" isn't she pro 9d?
petarixx [ 1k \]: b gets a wall on the left and then he can make \
pressure ot the whte central group
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: w central basically alive
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: notice that w has eye at the bottom
petarixx [ 1k \]: it has just one eye...
theolddan [ 2d*\]: m1 seems to make miai of conncting to the left \
and throw in of o2
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: w q2, if b q3, w gets another eye
petarixx [ 1k \]: what does w play after black q3?
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: m1
theolddan [ 2d*\]: w may also start with m1
petarixx [ 1k \]: b plays k1
theolddan [ 2d*\]: then w q2
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: O2
theolddan [ 2d*\]: ok after throw in at o2
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: yes]
;B[ik]
C[blackbeard [ 5d*\]: if there is ko, w very easy to make another \
eye
petarixx [ 1k \]: black theb connects and can play elsewhere...
petarixx [ 1k \]: as i sad ... putting pressure on central group...]
;W[jk];B[jj];W[kk]
C[blackbeard [ 5d*\]: the probelm is board very small now]
;B[eo]
C[blackbeard [ 5d*\]: notice w q5 cut, b is not thick at all
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: w may think about f4
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: seems e5 unnecessary
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: just yose
BEER [ 1k*\]: maybe q5 now?
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: if w L10, very solid
BEER [ 1k*\]: d5 is 17+ points
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: no, the strategy of white is to enclose b \
O6 stones
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: force b connect
BEER [ 1k*\]: enclosing means nothing without cut at q5
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: connection has no points
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: why are you always thinking of moves for w, blackbeard? \
w, not b, is the stronger :-)]
;W[gj]
C[blackbeard [ 5d*\]: because it's w's turn
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: now think about b]
;B[ij];W[il]
C[blackbeard [ 5d*\]: b can only wait w to make mistakes, make the \
game chaotic
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: so b doesn't really have moves that are good \
in their own right ;-)
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: very hard for b now
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: like this move
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: why not cut at d5
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: b doesn't want to connect for sure
midas [ NR \]: do you mean to say that  be5 was not so good
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: but seems have to
petarixx [ 1k \]: b should first of all play R6
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: yes, b e5 not the timing
theolddan [ 2d*\]: after bj10 seems b has to do somthing with \
his group here
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: no, neither b or w wants to play R6
mhlepore [ 1k*\]: if white gets sente and wants to solidify top, \
what is best way?
theolddan [ 2d*\]: giving h8 to w now seems to be unbearable
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: just connect is no points
theolddan [ 2d*\]: so think b will connect
theolddan [ 2d*\]: just to play consequently]

;B[rn];W[nj]
C[blackbeard [ 5d*\]: seems H10 is best]
;B[mj];W[mi];B[lj]
C[blackbeard [ 5d*\]: hehe
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: his opponent is 9p
theolddan [ 2d*\]: interesting
theolddan [ 2d*\]: i mean how the players judge there own moves
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: I feel bad for Feng Yun
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: ?
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: why?
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: competing with non-professionals
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: she should lose yesterday
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: should have lost
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: her win would have no meaning what so ever
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: yet if she loses
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: yup
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: loss of face big time
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: why is she here at all?
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: why not? hehe
grunt [ 5d*\]: Doesnt the winner go to japan to play pros?
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: just shows what kind of life she has...
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: a poor one
BEER [ 1k*\]: to prove her students their teacher is the strongest \
;)
mhlepore [ 1k*\]: most of these guys are 7d up on igs
codger [ NR \]: will this help going to international Oza?
BEER [ 1k*\]: why didn't she go to Taiwan to help their Go become \
stronger so they can compete with China/Kora/Japan?
BEER [ 1k*\]: Korea*
davew [ 4d*\]: read yesterday's NYT]
;W[rm]
C[codger [ NR \]: they want too much info]
;B[qn]
C[BEER [ 1k*\]: Jujo and Rui were smart enough to conlude that the \
would lose their strength if they stay in the USA, so...
BEER [ 1k*\]: they went to Korea ^_^
BEER [ 1k*\]: maybe Feng Yun should join in
davew [ 4d*\]: yes, we are a desert
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: why did they leave china to begin with?
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: hmm, cut disappeared
BEER [ 1k*\]: players in China get only 27% of the prize money
BEER [ 1k*\]: the rest goes to the Weiqi association
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: and what would they do with the rest of the prize \
money if they did get it?
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: I mean, they are by no means poor people]
;W[nh]
C[BEER [ 1k*\]: so, Chang Hao got "only" 108,000$ of the 400,000$ \
by winning the Ing cup
BEER [ 1k*\]: the rest goest to Weiqi associations, institutes \
etc.
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: so?]
;B[li];W[lh]
C[BEER [ 1k*\]: by the way, MOST of weiqi students in China PAY \
their lessons
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: and?
BEER [ 1k*\]: Nie Weiping's school charges more than 3,000$/person \
a year for the lessons
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: those 9ps are on the other side of the transaction \
table, if anything
froggy [ 1d*\]: i thot china was communist..?
BEER [ 1k*\]: so, players who succeed haven't much obligations \
to the weiqi association
BEER [ 1k*\]: in Japan most of teaching is free for the inseis, \
so after they become top pros, they feel they should return the \
favour
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: I still don't see in all this money talk a explanation \
why they left china to begin with....]

;B[kh]
C[BEER [ 1k*\]: by teaching the next generation]
;W[lg]
C[BEER [ 1k*\]: In China, TEACHING became the main source of earning!!!!!!
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: so, you are saying Zhuju etal weren't good enough
BEER [ 1k*\]: because couldn't earn enough money!!!!!!!!
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: to make a real living by winning tournaments
BEER [ 1k*\]: coz Feng Yun's husband is not a Go player]
;B[hk]
C[BEER [ 1k*\]: jujo and Rui left China because of some disputes \
with chinese weiqi association
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: what does Feng Yun's husband do?
petarixx [ 1k \]: it is getting more onterested...
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: I see, there is some real reason:-)
midas [ NR \]: Lu Wang is black?
BEER [ 1k*\]: Chinese Weiqi association requiered to get ALL the \
money she wins on tournaments in Japan!!!!!!!
yamaosama [ 8k*\]: just got here, bear with me, who is W and who \
is B?
BEER [ 1k*\]: should be in the title bar
BEER [ 1k*\]: Feng Yun is W
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: why did they require that?
BEER [ 1k*\]: Lu Wang is B
yamaosama [ 8k*\]: oh yes i see it sorry
BEER [ 1k*\]: coz they want MONEY!]
;W[nr]
C[davew [ 4d*\]: is this the final?
BEER [ 1k*\]: they don't care WHO will win the title and where, \
as long as they get their %
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: what were _there_ reasons?
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: _their_
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: sorry
BEER [ 1k*\]: they behave like OWNERS of chinese players
BEER [ 1k*\]: whose reasons?
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: those of the people representing the weiqi association
theolddan [ 2d*\]: w prepares " go home sequence" m1 plus j2
BEER [ 1k*\]: I laso read that Rui made some photos for Playboy \
as a revenge to the chinese weiqi association :)))
midas [ NR \]: any comment on w o2
midas [ NR \]: ?
godzilla [ 1d \]: scribe error?
BEER [ 1k*\]: that is why she doesn't want to go back to China, \
although she visited few tournaments
godzilla [ 1d \]: byomi time play?
gogo2004 [ 2d*\]: no
BEER [ 1k*\]: q2 soon
BEER [ 1k*\]: maybe m1 first
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: I mean, did the weiqi association change its \
mind: promised (some of) the prize money the players, but then \
reneged?
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: o2 better
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: or it had always been their policy?
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: if it always had been their policy, the players \
should have known it
yamaosama [ 8k*\]: what is the purpose of o2?
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: should be their policy
theolddan [ 2d*\]: if b resists on the right then w will play \
m1 + j2
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: and shouldn't have to dispute _after_ the fact
gogo2004 [ 2d*\]: what the hell r u guys talking about policy/]
;B[ns]
C[BEER [ 1k*\]: also, female players in Japan were so scared of \
Rui taking ALL title prize money, that they required that THEY \
get the money even if they lose matches to Rui :)
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: w, o2, if b o1, w q2, b]
;W[pr];B[pq];W[oq]
C[blackbeard [ 5d*\]: yes]
;B[jc]
C[blackbeard [ 5d*\]: if b connect
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: w sente
theolddan [ 2d*\]: b takes a pause
BEER [ 1k*\]: preapring some Ko threats]
;W[kd]
C[blackbeard [ 5d*\]: so b can't reply
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: BEER, i think you get very exited when talking \
about these top p exodus, but can you answer my questions?
theolddan [ 2d*\]: m1 is sente and j2 seems to go home (some aji \
left with f3 but anyway
BEER [ 1k*\]: but isn't W L7 second eye????
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: what if b L7 first
theolddan [ 2d*\]: yes but connecting would be bigger
BEER [ 1k*\]: but it is gote of course, so W wants second eye \
or connect in sente
gogo2004 [ 2d*\]: yes, but too small]

;B[fb];W[ec];B[do];W[fp]
C[theolddan [ 2d*\]: now f3 aji gone]
;B[fo]
C[theolddan [ 2d*\]: and f5 seems severe]
;W[gf]
C[theolddan [ 2d*\]: g14 now?]
;B[kb];W[lb];B[hc];W[jb]
;B[ib]
C[Undo: M19]
;W[ka];B[ie]
C[jackfish [ 5k*\]: thats better]
;W[if];B[he]
C[blackbeard [ 5d*\]: board is even smaller now
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: w run very safely]
;W[ih]
C[blackbeard [ 5d*\]: if Yupei wins, wang lu lose, how many players \
4 wins?]
;B[gi]
C[blackbeard [ 5d*\]: Yuepi shouldn't lose to Wang Lu, Yupei is \
much stronger
blackbeard [ 5d*\]: seems for me]
;W[hi];B[hj]
C[blackbeard [ 5d*\]: can w run f10?
gogo2004 [ 2d*\]: no]
;W[gh]
C[theolddan [ 2d*\]: does j16 kill?
theolddan [ 2d*\]: i mean k16
godzilla [ 1d \]: looks like that is the aim?
theolddan [ 2d*\]: yes
remh [ 3d*\]: ko
theolddan [ 2d*\]: otherwise w wouldnt have playes the g10 aji \
this way]

;B[fi];W[jd]
C[theolddan [ 2d*\]: there were a lot of ko threats there
godzilla [ 1d \]: or perhaps just to pick up the C stones ...
theolddan [ 2d*\]: and a big ko on the bottom
theolddan [ 2d*\]: yes
theolddan [ 2d*\]: w goes for it]
;B[hf]
C[godzilla [ 1d \]: although the C stones seem unlikely here]
;W[hg]
C[gogo2004 [ 2d*\]: i don't see ko there
gogo2004 [ 2d*\]: run is the only choice?
theolddan [ 2d*\]: o2?
theolddan [ 2d*\]: yes i think]
;B[ge];W[fe];B[ff]
C[theolddan [ 2d*\]: cant see tow eyes on upper side for b
gogo2004 [ 2d*\]: f14, then k14?]
;W[gg]
C[gogo2004 [ 2d*\]: but k14 useless
jackfish [ 5k*\]: b wins the semaeii?
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: k13?
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: instead of k14]
;B[eb];W[db]
;B[gd];W[fc];B[gc]
C[godzilla [ 1d \]: hmmm...]
;W[id];B[jg];W[jf];B[ig]
C[godzilla [ 1d \]: oooh]
;W[ki]
C[godzilla [ 1d \]: high steaks stuff...
gogo2004 [ 2d*\]: over?
gogo2004 [ 2d*\]: b can't defend
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: l14]
;B[kf];W[je]
C[gogo2004 [ 2d*\]: k15
gogo2004 [ 2d*\]: useless
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: k11
froggy [ 1d*\]: :)
gogo2004 [ 2d*\]: hehe, k11 doesn't work
jacko [ 1k*\]: stop smiling like that frog!!
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: too bad
gogo2004 [ 2d*\]: game over
Ariel74 [ 5k*\]: but very close]

;B[kg];W[kj])